USMLE pass rate: 97% You are a quack in white coat disguise. Many of them take up posts in consultoriosdoctor-and-nurse teams that live in the neighborhoods in which they practice. Residency, University of Toronto, Graduate. The communication with SGU had been awful, and AUA has been very responsive, so we put a deposit down on a beautiful apt by Lord Nelson, but now hes reconsidering SGU because of their reputation. I also understand that loans are not as easy to get for foreign med schools. Do you get federal loans for Saba University? Student Mentor. Here are the results of recent residency matches for Saba students: In the U.S.* C/O R3 Education Inc. 27 Jackson Road, Suite 301, Devens, Massachusetts 01434, On Saba IslandSaba University School of MedicineP.O. She likely will stay in Atlanta with her dad, but I am trying to consider her in all this (safety, school availability, etc) in case she does want to come with me. So, the material you are learning many times isnt even relevant to Step 1. Dont be afraid to cold call and explain your interests. My background is similar to yours, post bac, decent 3.3 gpa in in UNdergrad and better GPA in post bac just low MCAT score. Most IMGs end up in primary care with huge debt. With 900 students how did we get down to 650? Those who kiss butt and run the projector in Anatomy got an automatic pass. I really dont see a problem with giving someone a chance to do what they really want in life. Schools like the International University of Health Sciences allow you to take the basic sciences online (2 years), then find a residency in the United States and their system has been very successful. The hotel that he is likely referring to is the original campus. Required GPA for entrance as of 2019 (newly instated): 2.0 on a 4.0 scale 90 people started and 33 students currently at sem. Good luck to anyone on the path to becoming a doctor, I wish you the best! The school's website is available here. The medical schools of Saint Kitts and Nevis have a match rate of 45%. Thank you. But you have an edge if you spoke the language because they articulate and use anecdotes that is applicable to the most people. Its true, also acknowledge, while your motive might be to get educated, some people are business people, insurance people, and so forth. Couldnt they alert me $200k sooner if they thought I needed to step up my game rather than giving me As? The competitiveness to get into a US school is unbelievable. What I am trying to get across is that yes caribbean medical schools are tough. Other sources (like InGeniusPrep.com) tell us that the average GPA for Caribbean schools fluctuates between 3.2 and 3.3. @Nick, have you seen those real USMLE questions? If you want to be a surgeon you work for it, if you want to serve the underserved, you guessed it, YOU WORK FOR IT!! I am a current student there. Having said that, those schools are all for-profit and I think any reasonable person knows this so that is why you will never find a homogeneous bunch at any of these schools. one building three stores not large enough to fit all med1s but something to brag about in their brochures I guess. Yes, I agree that NPs have their issues as well as PAs. Things happen. Medical school is hard, it is going to be hard no matter where you go. I think what is missing is the transparency on the part of the schools. Most students drop out in basic sciences. I wouldnt want a physician who couldnt maintain a C to work on me or anyone on my family. What school did you even up applying for ? I worked my tail off to get to this point and I feel accomplished now. It is not my intention to sound like a d*%k. I decided to go through the arduous task of preparing my AMAC application and apply to the few schools that did not require all prerequisites within the last 5 years. Since SJSM is accredited and has students that match, I can say truthfully that if you have everything else going for you that you can make it through and become a doctor. Current student at AUA. The worst thing that I could say is witnessing someone die young; and realizing how life is short. They are about to lose their licensure to give NBME exams. Shes 3rd year radio resident after having a kid, and her husband is finishing 4th year radio and starting fellowship soon.. I mean. Circumstances come, even if you are the smartest student have a plan B. They hired a lawyer for my friend because she spoke the truth. You might not be accustomed to the standard of living, and its definitely outside of your comfort zone. We need you. I am the type of person that has to do everything by myself and sometimes God blesses me with people to help. however, since their establishment, AUA has not expanded their library seating. Saba, which makes up one of the regions big four, stirs up a lot of interest. The ugly truth about Caribbean medical schools, Add your comment below or scroll down to read After reading your post you are insinuating that the school is closing down??!!!!! 2 How much do Caribbean medical schools cost? Sadly some of my friends are figuring this out the hard way, many of which have fallen into alcohol or drug abuse etcsimply to deal with the stress and everything that they have to put up with at this school. But, ALL of the material for Step 1 and 2 is available to you outside of class. More than 25 years and 2,500+ successful graduates later . Compared to U.S. or Canadian schools, however, especially those with strong rankings thanks to research, etc., it's definitely not as good. Saba University School of Medicine makes it possible for students to earn their degree in under 4 years, spending . Sounds like SGU to me. Be 100% dedicated and you will get there. Do you feel deceived? In general, the CULTURE of medicine and being a physician is ludicrous! This is a business to them so they highlight only the good to lure you in. Saba has a match rate of 58% among US-IMGs. But it has also taught me much. i am not too sure how much truth this holds. The local population has developed a relationship with the university administration which allows them to use extortion, for example, to keep up to three months deposit from each student that rents, without justification, or to extract other off-lease payments. Does the school take two semesters worth of students totaling close to 2000/year? The faculty is diverse. If you are able to get into a US medical school, then by all means, go for it. I dont even know if that is a race I would run. I did get the M.D. Sign up for free IELTS webinars and prep material, Saba University School of Medicine, The point of this one example is that the school is run by advantage takers. So lot is wrong going on . When you finally get out of your unfortunate didactic studies and get into rotations, maybe youll have some more respect for the other members of the healthcare world! They actually started getting better the further we moved along in semesters. It made me so much more perceptive and empathetic to the pain and suffering of others. there are also other factors that make a student decide on their school like the cost of tution. Upon reflection research, AUA did not uphold the accreditation standards they were mandated to uphold. and because AUC has smaller class size, Federal Financial Aid availability, good housing, and NBME exam access for all subjects. unfortunately, these students are left with debt and broken hearts. I dont know what this mean and to be frank, common sense tells me that if you have 40% over the student population to seat numbers, isnt building or expanding the library the logical sense? Stop going out to parties etc. Would I do it again? TO BECOME A FREAKIN DOCTOR, THAT IS WHY!!!!!!!!! The majority of Currently I feel like a clown auditioning for a circus. If things dont turn out the way you desired, life is full of opportunities, and the world is large, find your way again and if it makes you feel better, the whole journey you been going on it part of your destiny. The loans are private and the rates are through the roof. if u can get into med school in the US, of course u should go to school in the US, but if like me, u had a foreign undergrad degree and the idea of US medical rotations/the chance to practice in the US appeals to you, then research a caribbean school that suits u. my 25 cents. I cant vouch for the others. Please I know you want to atleast sit back and let your MD work for you a little bit and reap rewards of your labor rightfully so.. Dont forget the reason that help you stick to it. There are times when I went to classes in pain and took an exam and passed it. If you failed the Some that are very close to making it out of there, but still need to face with taking the USMLE Step 1 exam, which I have heard of success and not so successful stories. In the United States, you have to actively seek it out.. Its all about motivation and not falling in with the students who dont take it seriously or who dont put in enough time. Yes. So, once again, we are not mashed into one lecture hall. Additionally, if you have the study material for Step 1 and have learned it well, you will pass every class with more than a 70% aka a C. Furthermore, if you cannot score a 70% or better on NBME subject exams, how do you expect to score well on Step 1? That must be stated that the morally bankrupt are not from here. Recently my sis talked to be about almost quitting residency again.. but her husband convinced her otherwise. Talk is cheap. In reality, a class is divided into two groups, the regular cohort who takes classes in a lecture hall and the one that needs extra help goes to a different building. I have been a PA-C for 5.5 years and am starting MD term 1 this fall. You will get homesick. I attended a school like this in Grenada. 100% USMLE Step 1 exam first-time pass rate (2021). It is a very rough school, with a terrible attrition rate. The recent 2019 sgu average step 1 score decreased from the years prior. I decided to apply to this school. while i sympathtise with this persons experience, his experience is not mine or that of many other colleagues of mine that went to Caribbean medical schools. Everybody gets accepted fuck you are paying in dollars in a third world country but when you finnish you will be unable to find an i ternship aka residency, in the usa and not alot of doors are opened for unliscensed professional in the healthcare field. The lady in Gobernacion used to give With everything else completed, they did me every disservice to prevent me from taking my exam this offered no benefit. I found out making excuses whether valid or not just doesnt flow on the islands; it is just a recipe for failure. my lawn guy goes fishing every day. Since its founding, more than 2500 students have earned their medical degree at Saba. Required fields are marked *. They would not be allowed to repeat semester 2 because as I had mentioned, the material that was taught in semester 2 was now going to be taught to semester 1 students with the new curriculum in place. They are supposed to act in the best interest of the student. How is a student from South Africa going to challenge a wrongful dismissal? You read correctly! You will be exhausted and will likely will be out of time to study on your own. In fact, NPs typically get to have far more face-to-face interaction with patients which help them to create more holistic and thorough plans of care for the patient. My experience so far is a great one. lol idk why this just stuck a nerve ? So I was determined to make sure I graduated!! 2022 Saba University School of Medicine. At Caribbean medical schools, the cost of tuition can often be steep. When, I become a doctor, my goal is to spread the word that no one attend the Caribbean medical school. So much money in US Defense, undergrad diploma mills, etc. 16% graduation rate??? I apologize for the rent, I tried to make it somewhat objective and not opinionated but Im just a human with anger and disappoint. That way you will not try to commit suicide. If you get dismissed and you feel like you been doing well, look at the world and see if there is anywhere else where you can be taught medicine. Instead I chose nursing and just enough non-nursing science classes to earn a BA in biology also. I recently applied to SGU and have an interview in the next couple of days. Coming from 3rd world country, I will tell you that a Caribbean medical school is like heaven compared to what I went through in Nigeria. I am not trying to be rude, I am just shocked, and deeply saddened that so many students (who are no different than myself, a medical student in the U.S.) are getting taken advantage of. Next they should assess how fast do they want to go. I am disappointed in the method that US Medical Schools select their students as I would bet on me against any US medical student out there. If they did they wouldnt have the demand they do now because if we were given all of the facts, some us would have chosen a field within health care that doesnt require this amount of chance, debt, stress, and moral compromise. I had several people say just go get your Nurse Practioner degree, but when I looked into that, the same amount of time would be required so I focused on Med School or PA School. Do you mind telling me if your classes were huge like SGU or more manageable? Thats what they used to doI recall getting an email asking me to write something positive on a forum for them about. It is stressful but it is ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT!!!! That is so effed. Yes, it was hard to adjust to island life (especially the hurricanes!) I would challenge you to speak with doctors in America now (brilliant doctors I may add) who attained their medical degrees from Nigeria and ask them what life as a medical student in Nigeria was like. I could be a nurse, PA, NP, EMT, or any other health care provider but I want to make some changes in this world and this puts you in the driver seat to do so. HiHave you enrolled in a medical school as yet? 2022 Saba University School of Medicine. Yes he works hard, but he made $230K by himself last year. Your anonymous and if you had those grades you could get into MD or DO school in USA. We were used as Physician Suicide 101: Secrets, Lies & Solutions. Im having that issue now. a. My boss whose a IM doctor/director of a hospital hazed me all the way through. We also have a health clinic on campus that also takes emergencies 24/7. Wow.. The make 85 K/year these days, and it doesnt take Near as long to become one. Or it doesnt apply to AUA because they dont teach students anything except garbles up students financial aid money?! We have a great psych department for those who suffer of anxiety, depression or are facing a difficult time. I do not. Its a crapshoot whether you will be vaguely steered in the right direction by the school itself. A simple google search led to me a plethora of backlash forum posts against the school. Not one of our lecturers has even written the USMLE (or any exam similar to it), NOT ONE. Why could they take my money each semester (which the schools loan company is after me for now) and they would not let me take my exam? Please give your reflections, recommendations, regrets, etc. Sabas Step 1 Pass Rate (95%) is also something potential applicants could find reassuring. Dostoevsky-gutless crap doesnt give a real name because they have no spine. This is too much for some to handle and Im sure they struggle to get a position. ive been doing some research and would like to run it by you before i make my decision on which caribbean school to attend. What was your final decision? Unreal. To be an *excellent* Doctor, lawyer, businessman, entrepreneur you need to be a daily high performer. Yes! We also have free shuttles from the school to other places in the town (running frequently, 7 days a week from 7 AM to 2 AM or later). You dont need to be a genius to be a doctor. Is there anyway you can put me in touch with David for tips. Thanks for sharing! I have been back and fourth on the idea of low tuition, small classes and the possibility of accomplishing a dream. If you have no business becoming a doctor, you will be in for a lot of hurt at any of those programs. The ambition to dig deeper and understand more. If you honestly dont have the stats, dont look at the Caribbean as the backdoor to an MD because it really isnt. Compared to most U.S. med schools thats a fairly high rate (meaning more students leave without a degree), but for Caribbean schools, its fairly strong (Ross University is 41.7%). [3] In 2006, the people of Saba, Sint Eustatius and Bonaire agreed to dissolve the Netherlands Antilles. Many of their graduates go on to secure prestigious residency positions in the USA. The rest, including Ross, are shit. Im a 41 year old commercial pilot. they are very competitive of course. I couldnt agree with you more. My advice, like the author of the article, is to do something else for a bit. We had a series of events that were questionable. Please help! Most have matched into residency and are staff now. Remember, the MCAT is required for the May term! your professor doesnt have to show up! Cons of the school: what school are you going to? You just have to put the hours in and learn it. The curriculum? What does it mean for you to be a doctor and how far are you willing to travel to get there, and will you ever give up? Hi Hani, Which school are you attending? You must compete with the affirmative action quotas whose candidates typically score below the average entry score for most schools. Saba Medical School (Saba University School of Medicine) is located in The Bottom, Saba, in the Caribbean.This Caribbean medical school was founded in 1993 and has enrolled about 1500 MD students since that time. If you want to be one of those few that make it to writing the USMLE and beyond, you need to be tough and have a great support system in place. That leaves the student being taught by faculty that may know less about the area than they do oftentimes. St James doesnt even qualify for federal loans. I graduated for American University of the Caribbean. Other than those schools, along with AUC, I would not waist my time. not a dorm-which AUA has been deligating that to nearby apt housing complexes on the island. While leaving my family/very young children, back home in the States. Hello, I just wanted to give my input to give a different perspective. No we dont have it, but you can get the 4th edition if you like, theres not much of a difference There is no guarantee of anything in life (unless you are accepted into a US medical school then you are guaranteed 99% chance of graduation and a fast-track to a residency). Hopefully they wont hinder you or affect you beyond what you can handle. When you get into troubles, it is hard, try your best to find the best solution you can. My starting class began with 1100 students, we are down to 650, meaning 59 percent of my class that I started the first day here with are still here to finish off our second year. My lawyer eventually Where to look for scholarship opportunities, How to apply to scholarships relevant to you, A list of available scholarships around the world, Are you planning to take an English language test? We have a lot of student organizations in case you want to show off your leadership skills. Antigua and Barbuda have two Carib MD schools that have a combined match rate of 46%. I actually enjoyed my med 1 courses and like youve mentioned, I met some amazing people. You cannot rely on the school to prepare you for the USMLE. The reason you came to this school is because it would accept you. Saba University School of Medicine has rolling admissions. Yet, they can effectively describe complex concepts such as cardiac pharmacology and explain to you and their parents about beta blockers etc. Lmao what in gods name makes you think anyone cares to cater their writing style so your eminence will be able to read it! What was neglected in the above illustration and below commentary was that you can study hard and study smart but if 40% have to go to maintain profit margins then 40% will go. Perhaps US Department of Education should start and investigation. go through an interview process with the organization. Some even leave the islands with PTSD. Medical School is not that hard if you think about it. Also, Saba students earn top residencies at medical centers across the U.S. and Canada. You are not exaggerating? How is that university can you please let me know? ), but final exams are I can tell you there are no competency gaps between me and my peers. What helps is knowing yourself, for me that was knowing that after surviving a brief Boarding school experience and then High School, I could survive anything, even being a doctor if I get there. If a student is doing poorly, SGU will even move them into an entirely separate learning track where they learn the material in small groups instead of lecture halls. Try being a little less judgmental and have a little more compassion. Life is short so dont spend forever trying to be a doctor and look seriously at other options which will keep you happy. Check out this keynote and answer the 7 questions at the end then maybe we can talk. 1) Students are literally mashed into a lecture hall which seats 900 and there are over 1000 students that must click in for mandatory lecture which is 80% of all lectures. The program I am in now is incredibly IMG friendly and they dont look at test scores as closely as you think. Rules are going to be strict than you are used to. Attrition rate ~ 86% Hes a 3rd year med student, end of year and dude is clueless. Patients have no respect for physicians as a concequence. Np programs have their own issues. Compare the top 3 Caribbean schools (St. George, Ross, AUC) and pay attention to things such as environment, living situation, curriculum, and most importantly KNOW yourself. I scratch my head like I know medicine has advanced since 2005 so I end up sending them my Caribbean notes/study materialsbut I dont want to make this post about Nigerian medical schools. Whats your phone number? Does anyone have any reviews on UMHS is St.Kitts? Please reconsider AUA, if you are. I would say go!!!! Most of us did clerkships in the states, but for an IMG-that Pure Slave-labor scut-monkey shit, usually in the Inner Cities. Research is useful, but its also extremely costly and doesnt really add much to the education of the average physician. final, you got a Segundo and Regularizationa second or third try. You just have to decide how much you can handle, what attitude you are going to pull up, and it if it is even worth it, lets say something hinders you from making it. Some who have to apply multiple years or start a new career (i.e. But if youre not privileged to, then when you get to the Caribbean medical school, you forge past all these obstacles and do what you have to do STUDY STUDY STUDY like your life depended on it and you will make it into the competitive pool. I laugh at situations just wondering how I made it, because its a strategy that releases burdens life threw or throws. In fact, some are pure dumb asses. Saba University School of Medicine was founded in 1992 with a bold mission: to establish an international alternative to U.S. and Canadian medical schools that would not only provide an excellent medical education and expansive career opportunities but also maintain an affordable tuition. There are people who want to be a doctor for the sake of becoming a doctor, and also some who need an MD for research jobs, medicolegal, Med School Professors, ETC.. I want to fill you in on what really goes on behind the scenes at my medical school and maybe you can help inform other students about what happens here before they make a huge mistake. The failure in the eyes of my family. Life gave us punches as kids in High School in US. If you are going to worry about the cost, dont go for it. Saba University School of Medicine is a relatively new school that was first established in 1992. Biology: one-year general biology or zoology with a lab component. The medical schools in the US did not want you, be thankful that you got a chance, but you found out that it was not for you. Build more schools, There simply is not enough schools and hospitals. Do not mess up your life after graduation. I graduated AUC did my steps, got my worthless MD and ruined my life and lost any chance of retirement. I am confused which one I should choose. Or is it my dream for her? Been there, done that. St George and AUC on the other hand is on a more touristy island so there are more readily available goods and amenities. We did not have the standing room only lectures as described by other posters. I felt well support, as there was a large percentage of Canadians in my class; I was in good company., Graduate. We also have free academic tutoring either for a group of up to eight students offered by the school, as well as, one-on-one free tutoring services offered by the honors society in the school. I was recently accepted to SJSM in St. Vincent. I got into RUSM and SJSM, and having a hard time to decided which one to choose. Every single school rejected me. We all know how important that test is, it pretty much defines what career specialty you will be able to get into. They do have decent scholarships available. I met with the owner and the dean of the school in Manhattan asking why, I had a 3.5 GPA BY THEIR OWN STANDARDS and they would not let me sit for the exam. Thanks for writing Elizabeth. In some other nations schools the applicants enroll then get filtered via attrition but many more at least get a shot at the title Granted when I was a student the tuition was much less, about 1400 USD/ semester thus total debt was also less. I applied to Ross, AUC, AUA and Saba. We are given a vague outline and need to get through the tests and STEP with high scores. and it should be! It appears to be that the institution was having issues with processing the federal loans due to the high attrition rate. Thus, story is; if you cant handle different and unexpected, dont go to the Caribbean. How do I know, because thousands and thousands have passed through and are now doctors and you didnt. 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